04/10/2011- Prevention & reporting of drug errors

#NurChat to discuss “Prevention & reporting of drug errors” 04/10/2011
“Any nurse who has made a drug error knows how stressful this situation can be. Registered nurses are accountable for their actions and omissions when administering any medicines and must take responsibility for any errors they make.” (Copping 2005) 
Drug errors are undoubtedly a serious issue and strategies to prevent them are important in order to maintain patient safety.  The use of strategies like the red tabard system have very much come under criticism of late, but do systems like this actually prevent errors from occurring?  And what happens when an error does occur? How do we report it and what constitutes a serious drug error? 
There is no doubt that any drug error is a serious and stressful event in any nurses career, do reporting systems ensure that the nurse is supported and learns from these events?  With seven out of ten fitness to practice cases brought to the NMC involving drug errors (Lomas 2010) does this sometimes lengthy process ensure that patients are safe and nurses are treated fairly?

Thanks goes to @susiqa for this discussion suggestion

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If you would like to do some background reading prior to the discussion then please click on the links below – please feel free to add to this if you have anything interesting to share.

NMC Standards for medicines management

Preventing and reporting drug administration errors Chloe Copping 2005 – Nursing Times

Fearful staff quiet over drug errors Clare Lomas 2010 – Nursing Times

How do we reduce drug errors Ingrid Torjeson 2008 – Nursing Times

Reducing medication administration errors in nursing practice Jones 2009 – Nursing Standard

Building a safer NHS for patients Improving medication safety – Department of Health

Red tabards keep patients safe and should not be undermined Steve Ham 2011 Nursing Times

Summary by Teresa Chinn RN

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Post Chat Summary


The discussion on the preventing and reporting of drug errors began by exploring if nurses often saw drug errors in their workplace.  It was cited that common errors included omissions and forgetting to sign drug charts.  Strategies to prevent drug errors were also discussed ranging from bar coding found in some care homes, to minimising distractions and interruptions and red tabards.

There were worries over healthcare environments who reported zero drug errors and whether this was due to them just not being reported.  Having an culture that was not about blame was brought up as being important. Being given the chance to learn from errors was seen as being good.  In general it seemed that everyone felt that nurses were quite well supported in their workplace when genuine errors were made.

Using pharmacists to administer medication was discussed and although it was agreed that they had very specific specialist knowledge of medicines it was thought that they would generally be open to the same human error and this would not necessarily prevent drug errors.

Better training and more training in polypharmacy was seen as being necessary in preventing errors in addition to regular updates.

Self administration was mentioned and again this had been seen to work in some care home environments but safe storage of individual patient medications on a busy ward was seen as a barrier.  And in some cases, eg insulin self administration the nurse would still need to observe and sign. Kettering Hospitals self administration was identified as interesting and linked here http://t.co/E2GXxjrX

It was agreed that administration was just one step in a process of and that drug errors could occur at any time, not just during administration. Another article was tweeted about the five rights and can be found here  http://t.co/unI6OBL1

Many thanks to all who took part - feel free to share this transcript with colleagues.

Summary by Teresa Chinn RN

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Chat Transcript (reverse chronological order):

NurChat Thanks again to @susqa for this discussion - we are always open to suggestions so if you have a burning issue please share #NurChat 9:01  
Feature | Block NurChat Well folks that's about it for tonight - thanks for a lively chat. Don't forget we are back NEXT Tues talking about flu #NurChat 9:00  
Feature | Block nursiedeb RT @PamNelmesFoH: #nurchat @Mrs_Tufty of course but surely observing the patients response is critical? Decision - action- evaluation 8:57  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH #nurchat @Mrs_Tufty of course but surely observing the patients response is critical? Decision - action- evaluation 8:56  
Feature | Block NurChat Would you like a PREP certificate following your contribution to NurChat tonight? DM your email address if you would. #nurchat 8:55  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @NurChat @pamnelmesFoH @Mrs_Tufty - agreed, an error an happen at any point in that process #nurchat 8:55  
Feature | Block NurChat RT @PamNelmesFoH: @Mrs_Tufty Question, challenge, read, observe, talk to patients. Administration is just one step in a complex process #nurchat 8:54  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH @Mrs_Tufty Question, challenge, read, observe, talk to patients. Administration is just one step in a complex process #nurchat 8:53  
Feature | Block NurChat SO - NMC error reporting pros and cons? #nurchat 8:52  
Feature | Block anniecoops @NurChat #nurchat goodness this is making me think about things I havent thought about for a while :0) 8:51  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse RT @NurChat: So is self administration a way of preventing errors or just shifting them from nurses? #nurchat 8:51  
Feature | Block NurChat RT @anniecoops: @nurchat #nurchat look at kettering hospital and self medication http://t.co/R4aylWV3 #NurChat 8:50  
Feature | Block NurChat So is self administration a way of preventing errors or just shifting them from nurses? #NurChat 8:50  
Feature | Block anniecoops @nurchat #nurchat look at kettering hospital and self medication http://t.co/E2GXxjrX 8:49  

Feature | Block MrsGracePoole @anniecoops @pamnelmesfoh #nurchat yes that's my point. Long term benefits to self admin. 8:48  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse i have seen self administration alot in care homes though and it generally works well #nurchat 8:48  
Feature | Block mikkywatt @anniecoops Have had a lot of pts self administer insulin, but nurse still needs to observe and record so still open to error? #nurchat 8:48  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse i like the idea of self administration but can't see how it could work logistically on a busy ward ? #nurchat 8:47  
Feature | Block anniecoops @NurChat #nurchat I dont know how they do storage for self meds but people are doing it as far as I know! 8:47  
Feature | Block NurChat @dmarsden49 full details on blog when you are on a grown up connection :) http://t.co/gXRajKKt #nurchat 8:47  
Feature | Block anniecoops @MrsGracePoole @PamNelmesFoH #nurchat I not a MH patient but should any nurse try to take away my insulin I might have few words to say ;) 8:46  
Feature | Block dmarsden49 RT @NurChat Next Tues (11/10/11) SPECIAL #NurChat - noticboard flyer > http://t.co/tjLUPwRm give me a clue, I can't view that on my mobile! 8:45  
Feature | Block MrsGracePoole @PamNelmesFoH @anniecoops #nurchat self admin used in MH care for consenting patients. What about insulin? 8:44  

Feature | Block AgencyNurse @PamNelmesFoH @anniecoops would there be safe storage issues? how would that work ? #nurchat 8:44  
Feature | Block anniecoops @nurchat #nurchat - yes Self med being developing over years I think http://t.co/WAfzJSQQ personally as pt with LTC I think must be option 8:44  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @mikkywatt agreed - i remember my long boring pharmacology lectures and they really did not educate me #nurchat 8:43  
Feature | Block dmarsden49 @anniecoops #NurChat don't disagree but like any method, it has to be right for the context, this requires good facilitation and leadership 8:43  
Feature | Block NurChat Next Tues (11/10/11) SPECIAL NurChat in conjunction with @NHSFluFighter #NurChat - noticboard flyer > http://t.co/TH8IPGun 8:42  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH Perfect but would this be allowed? RT @anniecoops#nurchat what about patient self administration as part of soultion: http://t.co/rKqdXr59 8:41  
Feature | Block licensednurse For #nurchat topic: drug errors in the workplace - here's our review of Nurse Practitioner Prescriptive Authority http://t.co/tGeI152w 8:41  
Feature | Block nlsaunders @NurChat Student nurse chat today: new style drugs charts in practice are lacking some features? Poss = drugs errors?#nurchat 8:41  
Feature | Block mikkywatt @PamNelmesFoH @AgencyNurse - maybe more/better pharmacology teaching at uni to help us understand the effects of polypharmacy? #nurchat 8:40  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @PamNelmesFoH i agree, and even the best of nurses needs a refresher on the basics #nurchat 8:40

Feature | Block anniecoops @nurchat #nurchat what about patient self administration as part of soultion: http://t.co/5JtY9xsu 8:39  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse RT @PamNelmesFoH:frequent review, pharmacist involvement (prep & ad) & nurses focused on assessing efficacy, monitoring, advocating #nurchat 8:39  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH @AgencyNurse frequent review, pharmacist involvement (prep and ad) & nurses focused on assessing efficacy, monitoring, advocating #nurchat 8:38  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse re NMC & reporting drug errors - i have found them to be too long winded & this is not productive on the nurse or care environment #nurchat 8:37  
Feature | Block Novembervivi @nursiedeb oh but it just sounds wrong to me..nurses are highly skilled clinicians, it is part of the job! #nurchat 8:36  
Feature | Block nursiedeb RT @anniecoops: @nurchat #nurchat - cant recommend the #nhsinstitute stuff highly enough brilliant resource http://t.co/YZkymUEB 8:36  
Feature | Block anniecoops @nurchat #nurchat - cant recommend the #nhsinstitute stuff highly enough brilliant resource http://t.co/YZkymUEB 8:35  
Feature | BlockAgencyNurse RT @anniecoops:#nurchat re productive series yes there is a great set on reducing medication errors from #nhsinstitute worth a look #nurchat 8:35  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse RT @nursiedeb: God forbid I made a mistake I would be supported as my bosses are fantastic. They make me proud to be a nurse #nurchat 8:34  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH RT @nursiedeb: @NurChat God forbid I made a mistake I would be supported as my bosses are fantastic. They make me proud to be a nurse #nurchat 8:33  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @PamNelmesFoH or more experienced nurses to give out medications? #nurchat 8:33  
Feature | Block anniecoops @dmarsden49 #nurchat re productive series - yes there is a great set on reducing medication errors from #nhsinstitute worth a look 8:32  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @PamNelmesFoH so more training?? #nurchat 8:32  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse RT @mikkywatt:Think lateness is a big drug error, think about Parkinsons meds, makes such a difference to get them on time - agreed #nurchat 8:31  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH Modern practice faces many challenges not least the concept of polypharmacy. These layers of complexity need to be recognised #nurchat 8:31  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @NurChat @susiqa @anniecoops 7/10 fitness to practice cases involve drug eroors so big issue #nurchat 8:31  
Feature | Block dmarsden49 @anniecoops #NurChat am I right in thinking that medication errors is part of the productive series reporting? 8:30  
Feature | Block mikkywatt @anniecoops Think lateness is a big drug error, think about Parkinson's meds, makes such a difference to get them on time. #nurchat 8:30  
Feature | Block nursiedeb @NurChat God forbid I made a mistake I would be supported as my bosses are fantastic. They make me proud to be a nurse #nurchat 8:29  
Feature | Block anniecoops @NurChat #nurchat wow the area of definition of error is quite interesting when you start to search around..... 8:29  
Feature | Block NurChat @anniecoops do you think the nmc could act more quickly to resolve referrals due to drug errors #nurchat cc @susiqa 8:29  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @dmarsden49 good point - and i would agree! #nurchat 8:29  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse in my experience nurse are quite well supported - but there are those nurses who won't admit to bad practice that led to error #nurchat 8:28  
Feature | Block dmarsden49 @anniecoops #NurChat ...learning from mistakes. 8:28  
Feature | Block@anniecoops #NurChat isn't that the point, that unconscious competence doesn't just appear it has to be nurtured, and that involves... 8:28  
Feature | Block nursiedeb @NurChat In my experience nurses are afraid they will get into trouble. Medics feel more supported. We still report tho #nurchat 8:26  
Feature | Block anniecoops @NurChat #nurchat I was supported all those years ago when I made error - yes - I guess they were quite forward thinking even then 8:25  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @PamNelmesFoH its a shame that they felt the need to jump on this !! #nurchat 8:25  
Feature | Block nursiedeb I have met a nurse who didnt realise it was his responsibility to check dosages prior to admin. Thought it was the docs job #nurchat 8:24  
Feature | Block nursiedeb @Novembervivi Lol! The nurses there loved it as they felt it improved patient safety. They were horrified I stood & made up drugs! #nurchat 8:24  
Feature | Block NurChat RT @anniecoops: @nurchat #nurchat I think this is the current the most up to date guidance to reduce errors: http://t.co/GR5isjDe #NurChat 8:24  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH @AgencyNurse The press recently slated nurses for 'do not disturb' tabards! Unsurprisingly the article was poorly informed #nurchat 8:23  

Feature | Block NurChat So when a major drug error occurs do you feel the nurse is supported ?? #NurChat 8:23  
Feature | Block anniecoops @nurchat #nurchat I think this is the current the most up to date guidance to reduce errors: http://t.co/LZK3uQci 8:23  
Feature | Block NurChat @emrsa15 Thanks for your comments though :-) #NurChat 8:23  
Feature | Block emrsa15 Sorry, have 2 disappear on parental taxi duties when this was getting going. My 1st chat and it's been fun. Look foward 2 the blog #nurchat 8:22  
Feature | Block dmarsden49 @AgencyNurse #NurChat you should have seen my Facebook page when I posted the story there, and that was from nursing friends and relations! 8:21  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @nursiedeb i have come across similar barcoding systems in care homes - they work quite well, but require technical know how #nurchat 8:21  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @anniecoops how late is late???? #nurchat 8:20  
Feature | Block nursiedeb Saw in US system where all drugs made up in pharmacy. only accessible at px time. patient & drug barcoded to prevent errors #nurchat 8:20  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse RT @anniecoops: @NurChat #nurchat also ar we clear what we define as an error? Just read that NPSA consider lateness an error too #nurchat 8:20  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse RT @emrsa15: @anniecoops pharmacists unlikely to be asked for a bedpan! -brilliant !!! #nurchat 8:20  
Feature | Block anniecoops @NurChat #nurchat also ar we clear what we define as an error? Just read that NPSA consider lateness an error too 8:19  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @dmarsden49 i always liked the tabbards too - and couldn't understand when we are talking about pt safety the backlash? #nurchat 8:19  
Feature | Block emrsa15 @anniecoops pharmacists unlikely to be asked for a bedpan! #nurchat 8:19  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @anniecoops thanks anne :) #nurchat 8:18  
Feature | Block NurChat RT @PamNelmesFoH: This may be controversial but..why don't we use the talent and expertise of pharmacists to administer patient meds? #nurchat 8:18  
Feature | Block anniecoops @PamNelmesFoH #nurchat - wouldnt pharmacists be subject to same human error factor? 8:18  
Feature | Block emrsa15 @PamNelmesFoH Not enough Pharmacists for the present posts I think and would be needed at specific times in large numbers #nurchat 8:18  
Feature | Block dmarsden49 @emrsa15 @PamNelmesFoH #NurChat as a PD nurse I liked the tabards idea. Interesting to note the backlash when nurses take responsibility. 8:18  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse RT @emrsa15: I absolutely think its the tip. An org that has an open culture and tries to learn from mistakes is prob saferer #nurchat 8:17  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH @anniecoops oh and the #QR code? I see a great future with this emerging technology in healthcare #nurchat 8:17  
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anniecoops @NurChat #nurchat : yep here is more but not had chance to read them! http://t.co/2ZbespCo 8:17  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @emrsa15 i think i would agree with you #nurchat 8:17  
Feature | Block emrsa15 @AgencyNurse I absolutely think it's the tip. An org that has an open culture and tries to learn from mistakes is prob saferer #nurchat 8:17  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH This may be controversial but..why don't we use the talent and expertise of pharmacists to administer patient meds? #nurchat 8:16  
Feature | Block NurChat Do you think nurses are supported in the event of a drug error? #nurchat 8:16  
Feature | Block emrsa15 @susiqa Training is the 1st casualty when things get tight. I suspect not many updates and audits of nurse dispensing are rare #nurchat 8:15  
Feature | Block anniecoops @NurChat #nurchat there are some publications aropund about it: http://t.co/b7PWLUs8 8:15  

Feature | Block nursiedeb @emrsa15 that is an excellent point. Denial is not just a river in Egypt. would like to see a change from blame culture tho #nurchat 8:15  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @emrsa15 so do you think what is reported is just the tip of the iceberg? #nurchat 8:15  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @emrsa15 i agree one of the biggest factors i find indrug errors is distractions #nurchat 8:14  
Feature | Block emrsa15 What worries me most is when I hear Directors of Nursing say they don't have drug errors in their org. That means not reporting #nurchat 8:14  
Feature | Block susiqa #NurChat .good question, how much update training is there out there these days? 8:13  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse RT @nursiedeb: Can also say having just audited that it is a rare occurrence. I dont know a nurse who hasnt made a drug error #nurchat 8:13  
Feature | BlockAgencyNurse RT @anniecoops: #nurchat isnt barcoding wrist bands and charts supposed to be part of future? - sounds interesting #nurchat 8:13

Feature | Blockemrsa15 @PamNelmesFoH absolutely. The drug round is too full of interruptions and distractions #nurchat 8:12  
Feature | Block nursiedeb @emrsa15 Can also say having just audited that it is a rare occurrence. I dont know a nurse who hasnt made a drug error #nurchat 8:12  
Feature | Block anniecoops #nurchat isnt barcoding wrist bands and charts supposed to be part of future? 8:12  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse RT @PamNelmesFoH: @emrsa15 #nurchat This may be one active factor: are there latent organisational failings contributing to errors? #nurchat 8:11  
Feature | Block anniecoops #nurchat learnt hard lesson! was only 2 units tho! 8:11  
Feature | Block emrsa15 @NurChat A standardised routine that is always followed would probably work - a bit like a checklist that they use in Theatre #nurchat 8:11  
Feature | Block nursiedeb @emrsa15 It is drilled in but I find its not on regular drugs but on one offs or after an emergency eg min jets during an arrest #nurchat 8:11  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH @emrsa15 #nurchat This may be one active factor: are there latent organisational failings contributing to errors? 8:11  
Feature | Block anniecoops #nurchat I learnt a hard lesson when I was student. supervised pt with diabetes giving own insulin and the script wasnt clear gave wrong 8:11  
Feature | Block NHSFluFighter RT @NurChat: Next Tues (11/10/11) we are holding a special NurChat in conjunction with @NHSFluFighter #NurChat 8:10

Feature | Blockemrsa15 Another Abx related one that I see is that when one is prescribed at 9am as bd for 8&8 the patient waits to 8pm for the 1st dose #nurchat 8:10  
Feature | Block NurChat Has anyone come across any strategies to prevent errors that work well ??? #NurChat 8:10  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @nursiedeb i agree that you wouldn't intentionally omit a drug but can be done accidently #nurchat 8:09  
Feature | Block emrsa15 @nursiedeb Really? I should have thought that would be drilled in. Perhaps explains the number of Rx that seem to have been omitted #nurchat 8:08  
Feature | Block nursiedeb #nurchat I can't understand why a nurse would fail to give a px drug. Unless I am concerned about dosage eg, etc I would not omit 8:08  
Feature | Block AndyRKett ooh will be watching #nurchat with interest 8:08  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse hey @susiqua - we are missing your comments add a # not an @ #nurchat 8:06  
Feature | Block emrsa15 I think it's partly because nurses may not see the importance of maintaining therapeutic levels of a 'common' class of drugs #nurchat 8:06  
Feature | Block nursiedeb #nurchat we all make mistakes as we are only human. Biggest error I see is forgetting to sign drug kardex 8:06  
Feature | Block PamNelmesFoH Hello #nurchat Pam signing in from Cornwall. 8:05  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse @emrsa15 i think that is themost common one that i see too - omission of a drug #nurchat 8:05  
Feature | Block emrsa15 The most common one that I see is failure to give antibiotics for a variery of reasons. I don't think folk see omission as an error #nurchat 8:04  
Feature | Block NurChat So - do you often see drug errors happen in your workplace? #NurChat 8:01  
Feature | Block NurChat @susiqua don't forget you hashtag tonight sue :) #nurchat 8:00  
Feature | Block NurChat Thanks goes to @susiqa for this chat suggestion #NurChat 8:00  
Feature | Block AgencyNurse Hi Nurchat - Teresa here, agency RN #nurchat 7:59  
Feature | Block NurChat Good evening all - as always let's start with introductions .... #NurChat 7:58  
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