#NurChat & @NHSFluFighter to discuss “Nurses uptake of the flu vaccine” 8pm on 11/10/2011 Tweet
This week we are adding in an extra #NurChat in conjunction with @NHSflufighter. Flu is a virus that caused more than 600 deaths last year, yet only 34.7% of healthcare staff were vaccinated. This year’s staff seasonal flu campaign targets healthcare professionals and aims to improve vaccination uptake among frontline staff.
Chief Nursing Officer, Dame Christine Beasley has written a message to all nurses and midwives to support the campaign, calling on us to protect ourselves, our families and our patients by getting vaccinated. She says: “As trusted nurses and midwives, you all play a key role in helping people make decisions about their healthcare. By getting vaccinated yourself, you are then able to discuss the vaccination with your patients and clients from a first-hand perspective, helping them to understand the benefits and dispelling some of those myths that we know exist.”
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Summary by Teresa Chinn RN & Jessica Barlow
Summary by Teresa Chinn RN & Jessica Barlow
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Post Chat Summary
This was a very lively debate with @NHSFluFighter as a very knowledgeable guest. The discussion began by asking why the uptake of the flu vaccine was only 34.7% in healthcare staff last year? It became quite clear that “flu myths” was one of the main reasons. Deployment of staff and accessibility was also discussed – and the use of mobile and night time units were seen as solutions.
It was asked if it is nurses professional duty to have the flu vaccine and the general opinion was that nurses do have a duty to protect themselves from getting flu and a duty of care to their patients.
Incentive schemes to get healthcare staff were discussed and these seemed to range from a lollipop to stickers even an extra days leave! Having flu fighter “champions” on each ward was also seen as a good idea, providing positive role models for flu jabs.
There was a large discussion on whether flu vaccinations should be treated as other vaccinations and become a condition of employment. There was mention that this may be a breach of human rights and infringe on freedom of choice - but most said that vaccinations were part of their employment anyway and flu is an important public health issue.
There were worries voiced about whether there are enough vaccines if more staff were to have the flu jab. Supplies in trusts ranged from being able to vaccinate 50% of staff to 80% of staff. Good communication between trusts was cited as a must to ensure that any shortfalls were met by neighbouring trusts. @NHSFluFighter assured that suppliers could supply more if needed.
In regard to this years flu campaign most felt that the campaign had drawn their attention to flu and getting vaccinated. It was generally agreed that it is great to see so many nurses getting passionate about flu vaccines.
It is well worth a read of this transcript, even if you took part in the debate , as the conversation has many very interesting threads. As always please feel free to share this with colleagues.
A big THANK YOU goes to @NHSFluFighter for this discussion suggestion and for taking part and providing us with lots of great flu information. Thanks also goes to all those who took part and added value.
Summary by Teresa Chinn RN & Jessica Barlow
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Chat Transcript (reverse chronological order)
Chat Transcript (reverse chronological order)
carlylou RT @NurChat: RT @NHSFluFighter: Five quick things you can do to support our flu fighter campaign http://t.co/nGP7LySc #flufighter #nurchat 9:13 PM
gracenglorydan RT @AgencyNurse: RT @NurChat: Transcript and post chat review available at http://t.co/A1VfdeuW soon, thank you all for sharing with @NHSFluFighter #nurchat 9:11 PM
BScAdNursPlym RT@NurChat: Transcript available at http://t.co/cVwU65ft Thank you all for sharing
with @NHSFluFighter #nurchat #NUR325 9:11 PM
BScAdNursPlym RT@NurChat: Transcript available at http://t.co/cVwU65ft Thank you all for sharing with
@NHSFluFighter #nurchat #AdNursPlym 9:11 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @NurChat: Transcript and post chat review available at http://t.co/jnMSDM5g soon, thank you all for sharing with @NHSFluFighter #nurchat 9:10 PM
NurChat Transcript and post chat review available at http://t.co/jnMSDM5g soon, thank you all for sharing with @NHSFluFighter #nurchat 9:09 PM
Medisister That's been great - ty @NurChat @NHSFluFighter and everyone else. Now, can't
stay here jabbering all night... bb all. #nurchat 9:06 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @NurChat: Please follow eachother share content, ideas and thoughts about all
aspects of nursing with eachother having met at #NurChat 9:06 PM
NurChat RT @PhilipRABall: @NurChat Hi #nurchat gang my first time in thanks for the RT, follow and fun discussion #nurchat 9:06 PM
PamNelmesFoH RT @NHSFluFighter: RT @NurChat: Thanks a lot @nhsflufighter for a great debate - happy to have you in a discussion anytime :-)) #NurChat 9:05 PM
PhilipRABall @NurChat Hi #nurchat gang my first time in thanks for the RT, follow and fun discussion 9:05
PM
NurChat Please follow eachother and share content, ideas
and thoughts about all aspects of nursing with eachother having met at #nurchat 9:05 PM
NHSFluFighter Do get in touch with any
questions or suggestions about your campaign: seasonalflucampaign2011@nhsemployers.org #flufighter #NurChat 9:05 PM
NurChat RT @NHSFluFighter: Good luck with your staff seasonal flu campaigns flufighters! #flufighter #Nurchat 9:05 PM
gracenglorydan RT @NHSFluFighter: Good luck with your staff seasonal flu campaigns flufighters! #flufighter #NurChat 9:05 PM
NHSFluFighter Good luck with your staff
seasonal flu campaigns flufighters! #flufighter #NurChat 9:04 PM
AgencyNurse great chat - lovely to tweet some great nurses,
catchyouallagain in 2 wks time for the next chat "basic care"
-details to come !!!! #nurchat 9:04 PM
ruthsmyth RT @AgencyNurse: Just had a read of @NHSFluFighter info on their website before #NurChat 8pm, some really useful stuff recommend a look http://t.co/3C8Xp1c7 9:03 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @gracenglorydan fab to have "met" you all! Good luck in all campaigns! Heres
to huge percentage uptakes and protected staff! #NurChat 9:03 PM
NHSFluFighter @NurChat Thanks for having us! And thank you to everyone who joined in the live #flu chat #NurChat 9:03 PM
gracenglorydan #Nurchat fab to have "met" you all! Good luck in all campaigns! Here's
to huge percentage uptakes and protected staff! 9:02 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @NurChat: Thanks a lot @nhsflufighter for a great debate - happy to
have you in a discussion anytime :-)) #NurChat 9:02 PM
PamNelmesFoH @NHSFluFighter ..oh and 'because I'm worth it'... (think L'oreal advert as you say
this tweeps). #NurChat 9:02 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @PhilipRABall: @NurChat #nurchat self portrait whilst chatting! http://t.co/xTBHWlEJ #NurChat 9:02 PM
NurChat RT @PhilipRABall: @NurChat #nurchat self portrait whilst chatting! http://t.co/MRIdavxO < good snap Philip :) #nurchat 9:02 PM
NHSFluFighter @N1ckWarren Highlight to OH or HR some case studies http://t.co/UjqVgbyd #flufighter #NurChat 9:02 PM
NurChat RT @PhilipRABall: @NurChat #nurchat self portrait whilst chatting! http://t.co/MRIdavxO #Nurchat 9:02 PM
CatieH @N1ckWarren Have you spoken to OH or similar about making
it more accessible? Trolleys on wards are the very best way! #nurchat 9:01 PM
NurChat Thanks a lot @nhsflufighter for a great debate - happy to have you in a discussion anytime :-)) #Nurchat 9:01 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @N1ckWarren: Wish my trust would make it easier - 4x 1 hour clinics at my unit
offered so far - not on shift for any #NurChat 9:00 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @AgencyNurse: @Medisister i think that is a brilliant ethos -lets keep
trying - that's why we are here! #flufighter #NurChat 9:00 PM
PamNelmesFoH @NHSFluFighter it's important to me because it's important to others...#NurChat 9:00 PM
N1ckWarren Wish my trust would make it easier - 4x 1 hour
clinics at my unit offered so far - not on shift for any #nurchat 9:00 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @NurChat: RT @AgencyNurse: This is how easy it is to #NurChat ;) http://t.co/dFGLW0qI < nice NurChatting pic #NurChat 8:59 PM
gerrybolger @nursiedeb @HelenGSTT: interesting that in some places it's a choice
and others not (not my experience I might add!) #nurchat 8:59 PM
AgencyNurse RT @gracenglorydan: RT @gerrybolger: Well done all the #flufighters and lets the the nation vaccinated #nurchat 8:59 PM
Medisister @nursiedeb Making people get the jab is likely to be as
hard as making them stop smoking, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try! #nurchat 8:59 PM
gracenglorydan RT @gerrybolger: Well done all the #flufighters and lets the the nation vaccinated #nurchat 8:59 PM
hannietaylor RT @NurChat: RT @NHSFluFighter: Five quick things you can do to support our flu fighter campaign http://t.co/nGP7LySc #flufighter #nurchat 8:58 PM
NurChat RT @AgencyNurse: This is how easy it is to #NurChat ;) http://t.co/qGCvKidB < nice NurChatting pic #nurchat 8:58 PM
NurChat @nhsflufighter are going to be at primary care live nxt week -19&20 , I'm sure
they'd love to say hi if you are there #Nurchat 8:58 PM
nursiedeb RT @HelenGSTT: RT @nursiedeb: hep B vaccine is a choice and some staff decline It is a condition of
employment where I work. #nurchat 8:58 PM
NHSE_Andrew RT @NurChat: RT @NHSFluFighter: Five quick things you can do to support our flu fighter campaign http://t.co/FWefyF3V #flufighter #nurchat 8:58 PM
PamNelmesFoH I can see this as part of the marketing
campaign for AW11- by @nursiedeb: well...'what else do we get for nothing at
work' #nurchat Class! 8:58 PM
CatieH @AgencyNurse @nursiedeb Exactly - phrases like "manflu" make
people think of #flu as a cold for pathetic people. It's most def not. #nurchat 8:58 PM
SFHFT RT @NHSFluFighter: These are just a few myths
that surround the flu vaccination... along with the flu vaccine giving you the
flu - which is false #NurChat 8:57 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @CatieH: @PamNelmesFoH youve just about enough time
to give us a one-liner on why the jab is important to you! #NurChat 8:57 PM
NurChat RT @NHSFluFighter: Five quick things you can do to support our flu fighter campaign http://t.co/nGP7LySc #flufighter #nurchat 8:57 PM
NHSFluFighter Five quick things you can do
to support our flu fighter campaign http://t.co/TK2Tx7Xu #flufighter #NurChat 8:57 PM
AgencyNurse RT @NurChat: 10 mins to go, great lively chat :) NEXT CHAT
25th October discussing "Basic Care" #nurchat 8:57 PM
CatieH @PamNelmesFoH you've just about enough time
to give us a one-liner on why the jab is important to you! #nurchat 8:57 PM
NHSFluFighter @AgencyNurse Thank you.... but it is frontline staff like yourself who make the
difference #NurChat 8:56 PM
AgencyNurse @nursiedeb i think you may have a point there flu is not
seen as serious!!! #nurchat 8:56 PM
NurChat RT @PamNelmesFoH: Pam here joining very late! Just scanning tweets and what a great
debate youve all had #nurchat @flufighters #nurchat 8:55 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @AgencyNurse: i think that itsbrilliant to see so many nurses passionate about flu
and this years campaign #NurChat 8:55 PM
NHSE_Dean RT @NHSFluFighter: RT @nursiedeb: @NHSFluFighter Thank you. I am incredibly proud to be part of the campaign #NurChat 8:55 PM
PamNelmesFoH Pam here joining very late! Just scanning
tweets and what a great debate you've all had #nurchat @flufighters 8:55 PM
nursiedeb Do you think that we can 'make' staff get a
vaccination they don't want? is it perhaps cos flu is not seen as 'serious'
like hep B? #nurchat 8:54 PM
gerrybolger Can I propose for a future #nurchat how do we solve a problem like the NHS (and stop it being a political
football 8:54 PM
NurChat Why not show nurses how easy it is to #NurChat ? twit a pic of yourself NurChatting tonight...a feel a competition
coming on! #nurchat 8:54 PM
AgencyNurse ... thanks goes to the hard working ppl at @nhsflufighter for bringing the campaign to nurses #nurchat 8:54 PM
nhsemployers RT @NHSFluFighter: RT @nursiedeb: Would like to take a wee minute to say thank
you to all the staff fighting flu. Both giving and receiving jabs! #NurChat 8:54 PM
gracenglorydan Absolutely!! “@AgencyNurse: i think that itsbrilliant to see so many nurses passionate about flu
and this years campaign #nurchat” 8:54 PM
gerrybolger RT @AgencyNurse: i think that itsbrilliant to see so many nurses passionate about flu
and this years campaign #nurchat 8:54 PM
AgencyNurse i think that itsbrilliant to see so many nurses
passionate about flu and this years campaign #nurchat 8:53 PM
gracenglorydan #Nurchat re: mandatory vaccines read a great quote: "Imms is more highly
valued by a public persuaded of it's benefits not coerced" 8:53 PM
NurChat RT @nursiedeb: Would like to take a wee minute to say thank you
to all the staff fighting flu. Both giving and receiving jabs! #nurchat 8:52 PM
KevinHamUoP RT @gerrybolger: @AgencyNurse do we mean 'basic' or fundamental? care #flu #fluflighter #nurchat 8:52 PM
NurChat RT @gerrybolger: @theRCN whats your position on #flu vacinations
being an occupational requirement #fluflighter #nurchat 8:51 PM
nursiedeb @NurChat Day of my surgery, but I will be taking part as
I hope to be receiving some very good basic care lol! #nurchat 8:51 PM
AgencyNurse RT @gerrybolger: @theRCN whats your position on #flu vacinations
being an occupational requirement #fluflighter #nurchat 8:51 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @NurChat: 10 mins to go, great lively chat :) NEXT CHAT 25th October discussing
"Basic Care" #NurChat 8:51 PM
AgencyNurse RT @nursiedeb: Would like to take a wee minute to say thank
you to all the staff fighting flu. Both giving and receiving jabs! #nurchat 8:50 PM
NurChat 10 mins to go, great lively chat :) NEXT CHAT
25th October discussing "Basic Care" #nurchat 8:50 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @nursiedeb: Would like to take a wee minute to say thank you to all the staff
fighting flu. Both giving and receiving jabs! #NurChat 8:49 PM
gerrybolger @CatieH trust me I will! Are unions opposed to other
occupational vaccines then too? #nurchat 8:49 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @KevinHamUoP surely this is what this yrs campaign is all about- target healthcare
staff and they pass on the message #NurChat 8:49 PM
NHSE_Andrew RT @nursiedeb: Would like to take a wee minute to say thank
you to all the staff fighting flu. Both giving and receiving jabs! #nurchat 8:49 PM
laurajole RT @NHSFluFighter: @nursiedeb After all it is about protecting our patients
and family as well as ourselves #flufighter #NurChat 8:49 PM
CatieH @gerrybolger I assume that's something you need to take to
your union, although I believe they are opposed mandatory flu jabs. #nurchat 8:49 PM
gerrybolger RT @AgencyNurse: @gerrybolger i must admit i do agree with you there - it
should be a requirement #nurchat Thank you I felt a lone voice! 8:48 PM
nursiedeb Would like to take a wee minute to say thank
you to all the staff fighting flu. Both giving and receiving jabs! #nurchat 8:48 PM
AgencyNurse @gerrybolger i must admit i do agree with you there - it
should be a requirement #nurchat 8:48 PM
gerrybolger RT @nursiedeb: RT @NHSFluFighter: After all it is about protecting our patients and family as well as
ourselves #flufighter #nurchat 8:48 PM
nursiedeb RT @NHSFluFighter: @nursiedeb After all it is about protecting our patients
and family as well as ourselves #flufighter #nurchat 8:47 PM
gerrybolger #nurchat if where I used 2 live our GP had 3 weekends of flu jabs only the
uptake by elderly & vulnerable puts NHS staff to shame 8:47 PM
AgencyNurse @KevinHamUoP surely this is what this yrs campaign is all
about- target healthcare staff and they pass on the message #nurchat 8:47 PM
NHSFluFighter @nursiedeb After all it is about protecting our patients and family as well as
ourselves #flufighter #NurChat 8:47 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @nursiedeb: @NHSFluFighter Thank you. I am incredibly
proud to be part of the campaign #NurChat 8:47 PM
nursiedeb @NHSFluFighter Thank you. I am incredibly proud to be part of the campaign #nurchat 8:46 PM
laurajole @HelenGSTT I took part in the programme 2yrs ago, trained
through OH and covered with a PGD #Nurchat 8:45 PM
NHSFluFighter @nursiedeb Most definitely Debbie...and it is down to staff like you that makes
that a reality #NurChat 8:45 PM
gerrybolger RT @AgencyNurse: I get irritated w ehave the same discussion year on year and we don;t
tackle the underlying issue #nurchat 8:45 PM
nursiedeb Hopefully we will improve year on year.
Certainly heartening to know we have an increase #nurchat 8:44 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @KevinHamUoP: #nurchat at my local GP they have all the flags out to increase uptake you cant
miss it #NurChat 8:44 PM
AgencyNurse RT @KevinHamUoP: #nurchat at my local GP they have all the flags out to increase uptake you cant
miss it #nurchat 8:44 PM
NHSFluFighter @gerrybolger Great that you admire the work gone into the 2011/2012 campaign. #NurChat 8:44 PM
NurChat RT @gerrybolger: I have to admire this year flu campaign it's in your face and hard for
staff to ignore #nurchat (& on my payslip too!) 8:44 PM
AgencyNurse @gerrybolger yes it certainly seems to have got our
attention this year #nurchat 8:44 PM
KevinHamUoP #nurchat at my local GP they have all the flags out to increase uptake you can't
miss it 8:44 PM
CatieH RT @NHSFluFighter: @gerrybolger any positive increase of flu vaccination uptake is an improvement #NurChat 8:44 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @gerrybolger: I have to admire this year flu campaign its in your face and hard for
staff to ignore (& on my payslip too!) #NurChat 8:43 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @PhilipRABall working in independent charity provider trying to persuade them flu
jabs good investment not all GPs help #NurChat 8:43 PM
gerrybolger I have to admire this year flu campaign it's in
your face and hard for staff to ignore #nurchat (& on my payslip too!) 8:43 PM
gracenglorydan RT @CatieH: The last thing we want is some trusts with waste and some with not
enough, so keep communications with neighbours open! #nurchat 8:42 PM
NHSFluFighter @gerrybolger any positive increase of flu vaccination uptake is an improvement #NurChat 8:42 PM
AgencyNurse RT @CatieH: The last thing we want is some trusts with
waste and some with not enough, so keep communications with neighbours open! #nurchat 8:42 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @CatieH: The last thing we want is some trusts with waste and some with not
enough, so keep communications with neighbours open! #NurChat 8:42 PM
NurChat RT @CatieH: Yes still stocks left. Of course trusts that
run out should consider asking neighbouring trusts if they have an excess... #nurchat 8:42 PM
gerrybolger RT @AgencyNurse: though if last years uptake was only 35% ish then 50% would be a
marked improvement #nurchat or a bad result for 50% don't 8:41 PM
CatieH The last thing we want is some trusts with waste and some with not
enough, so keep communications with neighbours open! #nurchat 8:41 PM
NHSFluFighter @gerrybolger More stock has been ordered than last year...and suppliers have
confirmed that they have additional supplies #NurChat 8:41 PM
nursiedeb RT @AgencyNurse: though if last years uptake was only 35% ish then 50% would be a
marked improvement #nurchat 8:41 PM
AgencyNurse though if last years uptake was only 35% ish
then 50% would be a marked improvement #nurchat 8:41 PM
gerrybolger RT @NHSFluFighter: @gerrybolger ...and suppliers report that they still have
stocks available to order. #NurChat So we have enough stocks 8:41 PM
CatieH Yes still stocks left. Of course trusts that run out should consider
asking neighbouring trusts if they have an excess... #nurchat 8:40 PM
NurChat RT @PhilipRABall: @NurChat #NurChat working in independent charity provider trying to persuade them flu
jabs good investment @NHSFluFighter not all GPs help 8:40 PM
gerrybolger I maybe simplifying the issue, but we have
limited stocks optional choice & want everyone to have it thats not a
win-win situation #nurchat 8:40 PM
NurChat RT @NHSFluFighter: @gerrybolger 8.4m doses of seasonal flu vaccine have been
distributed to the NHS and private sector in the UK #NurChat 8:40 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @laurajole: My trust is aiming for 70% with trained nurses in every dept giving
out the jabs #NurChat 8:39 PM
CatieH @nursiedeb That's an interesting point about supplies. #nurchat 8.4m vaccines have been made this year. 7.1m doses last year. 8:39 PM
nursiedeb RT @gracenglorydan: @nursiedeb We brought enough for 80%! Im so under pressure
not to waste any! ;-) #nurchat 8:39 PM
nursiedeb Considering that we are the 3rd largest
employer in the world, we should have more #nurchat 8:39 PM
PhilipRABall @NurChat #NurChat working in independent charity provider trying to persuade them flu
jabs good investment @NHSFluFighter not all GPs help 8:39 PM
gracenglorydan @nursiedeb We brought enough for 80%! I'm so under pressure not to waste any! ;-) #NurChat 8:39 PM
NHSFluFighter @gerrybolger ...and suppliers report that they still have stocks available to order.
#NurChat 8:39 PM
AgencyNurse RT @nursiedeb: In my trust we have a limited supply. We would
not have enough if over 50% of staff got it. - OMG really ?? #nurchat 8:39 PM
laurajole My trust is aiming for 70% with trained nurses
in every dept giving out the jabs #Nurchat 8:39 PM
NHSFluFighter @gerrybolger 8.4m doses of seasonal flu vaccine have been distributed to the NHS and
private sector in the UK #NurChat 8:38 PM
nursiedeb @laurajole It wont be your last love! Its addictive this
chatting to other nurses stuff! #nurchat 8:38 PM
AgencyNurse RT @gerrybolger: If the whole of the NHS & private sector had to have it, have we
enough vaccinations - interesting question #nurchat 8:38 PM
nursiedeb In my trust we have a limited supply. We would
not have enough if over 50% of staff got it. #nurchat 8:37 PM
gerrybolger Can anyone remember when you had to get your
Hep Vacs form your GP before it was provided at work? #nurchat (or am I showing the 80's) 8:37 PM
NurChat RT @NHSFluFighter: @KevinHamUoP Studies show that trivalent seasonal influenza
vaccines give about 7080% protection to healthy adults #NurChat 8:37 PM
gerrybolger If the whole of the NHS & private sector had to have it, have we
enough vaccinations #nurchat 8:36 PM
gracenglorydan RT @NHSFluFighter: @KevinHamUoP Studies show that trivalent seasonal influenza
vaccines give about 7080% protection to healthy adults #NurChat 8:36 PM
gerrybolger Am I mistaken, why are e offering sweeties to
the children to do the right thing and get vaccinated, it's a responsibility of
care? #nurchat 8:36 PM
laurajole Sorry I'm late, cardiac nurse in the catheter
labs, prev worked with OH to administer flu jabs to staff, interesting
discussion #Nurchat 8:36 PM
NHSFluFighter @KevinHamUoP Studies show that trivalent seasonal influenza vaccines give about 7080%
protection to healthy adults #NurChat 8:36 PM
CatieH @PhilipRABall Some are paying them with an
extra day holiday, or incentivising by doing a draw for free car park
space/vouchers etc #nurchat 8:35 PM
nursiedeb Can't understand why anyone wouldn't want it.
What else do we get for nothing at work!! #nurchat 8:35 PM
AgencyNurse RT @KevinHamUoP:excuse my ignorance but how much does having the jab reduce your risk
of acquiring flu? - one for @nhsflufighter #nurchat 8:35 PM
NHSE_Andrew @gerrybolger 'choice'. Having said that all unions very
supportive of this year's campaign. #nurchat 8:35 PM
nursiedeb RT @AgencyNurse: RT @PhilipRABall: @NurChat how about paying staff to take flu jab? .... WHAT !!! isnt a lollipop
enough?? #nurchat 8:35 PM
NurChat Have you been offered the jab? Let's get some
feedback for @NHSFluFighter tonight. #nurchat 8:35 PM
NHSFluFighter @PhilipRABall Why should staff need paying? It is free. It protects them. Their
families and their patients. #NurChat 8:34 PM
AgencyNurse RT @PhilipRABall: @NurChat how about paying staff to take flu jab? ....
WHAT !!! isnt a lollipop enough?? #nurchat 8:34 PM
KevinHamUoP #nurchat excuse my ignorance but how much does having the jab reduce your risk
of acquiring flu? 8:34 PM
CatieH @nursiedeb And although that isn't the same as a
"champion" it makes her easily recognisable as a nudge to get the jab
#nurchat 8:34 PM
HelenGSTT It will be interesting to see what happens if
HCW uptake poor, given the CMO article in the Times some weeks ago #NurChat 8:33 PM
gerrybolger #nurchat in fact if the GMC and NMC had any small round things they'd tackle
their practitioners for not complying as a duty of care 8:33 PM
NHSE_Andrew @gerrybolger Not just DH. Staff side also opposed to
mandatory vaccination. #nurchat 8:33 PM
AgencyNurse RT @gerrybolger: Then DH can stop whining that the uptake is bad. Imagine if we made
all the other vaccinations optional! #nurchat 8:33 PM
gerrybolger I agree role models are good but yo'll have a
die hard group that will resist #nurchat 8:32 PM
NurChat RT @nursiedeb: Lol! I was kidding. I think flu cost us a lot
more money than hepatitis B and we all have to be vaccinated against that #nurchat 8:32 PM
AgencyNurse @Medisister thats a very interesting perspective & i
would have to agree #nurchat 8:32 PM
NurChat RT @Medisister: A flu jab at this time of year is as much a duty of care as washing
your hands. #nurchat 8:32 PM
gerrybolger @NHSE_Andrew Then DH can stop whining that the uptake is
bad. Imagine if we made all the other vaccinations optional! #nurchat 8:32 PM
NHSE_Andrew @nursiedeb London Ambulance have done same things with
their paramedics - worked really well and vaccine rates high. #nurchat 8:32 PM
AgencyNurse @nursiedeb thats a great idea - someone at grass roots
level though to act as role model too #nurchat 8:31 PM
gerrybolger @HelenGSTT then so be it 9unless their good clinical
grounds you can't have it like others and its on an individual basis. #NurChat 8:31 PM
NHSE_Andrew @HelenGSTT Your right and when we last spoke to them there
was no plans to make it mandatory. #nurchat 8:31 PM
Medisister A flu jab at this time of year is as much a
duty of care as washing your hands. #nurchat 8:30 PM
nursiedeb Lol! I was kidding. I think flu cost us a lot
more money than hepatitis B and we all have to be vaccinated against that #nurchat 8:30 PM
HelenGSTT I think guidance would be required from DH in
order to mandate the vaccine #NurChat 8:29 PM
nursiedeb I think each ward should have a couple of flu
fighter champions. Do some training and let each ward have their own supply of
jabs #nurchat 8:29 PM
KevinHamUoP #nurchat I declined an immunisation recently that I was told I had to have to
work within my Trust 8:29 PM
NHSFluFighter @nursiedeb This is understandable and has come up in our flu workshops...but isn't
it also a duty of care? #NurChat 8:29 PM
gerrybolger @nursiedeb Then all other vaccines are a breech of human
rights, hogwash!! It's a public health issue! #nurchat 8:29 PM
AgencyNurse @nursiedeb but don't we already have to have immunisations
- surely one more wont breach our human rights? #nurchat 8:29 PM
AgencyNurse RT @gerrybolger: @KevinHamUoP Do you have a freedom of choice on other
vaccines then required for work? #nurchat 8:28 PM
nursiedeb Gerry I agree, however some may say that its a
breach of their human rights lol! #nurchat 8:28 PM
gerrybolger @KevinHamUoP Do you have a freedom of choice on other
vaccines then required for work? #nurchat 8:27 PM
gracenglorydan Hear hear!! Lol! ;-) “@AgencyNurse: @gracenglorydan extra days leave or a
lollipop- the lollipop get my vote !! #nurchat” 8:27 PM
gerrybolger @NHSFluFighter I think the flu vaccine should be trated like other occupational
vaccines. #NurChat 8:27 PM
AgencyNurse RT @Medisister No. Everyone knows what an injection is and what a needle looks like.
Saying Ive had it wont make it more appealing #nurchat 8:27 PM
NurChat RT @NHSFluFighter: @gerrybolger So you believe that the flu vaccination should
be contractual? #NurChat 8:27 PM
gerrybolger I think we're muddying the issues by making it
optional & the issue of employer requiring it is good public health
practice? #nurchat 8:26 PM
Medisister @NurChat - No. Everyone knows what an injection is and
what a needle looks like. Saying 'I've had it' won't make it more appealing #nurchat 8:26 PM
NHSFluFighter @gerrybolger So you believe that the flu vaccination should be contractual? #NurChat 8:26 PM
gracenglorydan @NurChat absolutely!! Virtually every staff member I approach and offer asks me:
"have you had it?". #NurChat 8:26 PM
CatieH @nursiedeb No need to make stickers, I have some spare in
the office! Email the flu capaign address and I'll send you som! #nurchat 8:26 PM
AgencyNurse @PhilipRABall do you think ?? we already
have vaccinations anyway as part of our employment #nurchat 8:25 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @AgencyNurse: @gracenglorydan extra days leave or a
lollipop- the lollipop get my vote !! #NurChat 8:25 PM
NHSFluFighter @nursemaiden It is up to your employer if they offer you this or not. You can buy
the vaccine over the counter for as little as £7 #NurChat 8:25 PM
gerrybolger #nurchat isn't it an occupational clearance requirement to have standard
vaccinations, why isn't flu treated the same? Why make it optional? 8:25 PM
AgencyNurse @gracenglorydan extra days leave or a lollipop- the lollipop get my vote !! #nurchat 8:24 PM
PhilipRABall @NurChat That would be one way but would it lead to
other measures becoming a condition of employment/practice i.e. stop smoking? #nurchat 8:24 PM
NHSFluFighter @nursemaiden This campaign is aimed at NHS organisations...
some private sector organisations have offered the flu jab - CoOp #NurChat 8:24 PM
NurChat Do you think that by getting the flu jab we can
then have first hand perspective to promote the jab to patients? #nurchat 8:24 PM
AgencyNurse @NHSFluFighter an extra days leave in exchange for having the jab !!! wow!! #nurchat 8:23 PM
gracenglorydan @NHSE_Andrew hi Andrew, we haven't stretched to a days leave but we are giving out
lollipops with the flu jab!! Pediatric staff! #NurChat 8:23 PM
NurChat RT @NHSFluFighter: @nursiedeb @CatieH has been working on best practice Case Studies
for the #flu campaign. Some great examples: http://t.co/UjqVgbyd #NurChat 8:22 PM
AgencyNurse RT @nursemaiden: #NurChat Hi Im now working in the independent sector, where do they fit in with
this programme? #nurchat 8:22 PM
NurChat RT @gerrybolger: @nurchat Why the flu vaccination isn't treated the same
way as the other vaccinations and a condition of employment/practice? #nurchat 8:22 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @NHSE_Andrew: I know of one trust that is giving everyone who has the jab an extra
days leave - good idea?? #NurChat 8:21 PM
nursiedeb RT @NHSE_Andrew: I know of one trust that is giving everyone who has the jab an extra
days leave - good idea?? #nurchat 8:21 PM
NHSE_Andrew I know of one trust that is giving everyone who
has the jab an extra days leave - good idea?? #nurchat 8:21 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @nursiedeb: Put it this way, I cant feed my kids if I cant work! Or buy shoes! #NurChat 8:20 PM
NHSFluFighter @nursiedeb @CatieH has been working on best practice Case Studies for the #flu campaign.
Some great examples: http://t.co/UjqVgbyd #NurChat 8:20 PM
nursemaiden #NurChat Hi I'm now working in the independent sector, where do they fit in with
this programme? We treat NHS. Are they involved? 8:20 PM
gerrybolger @nurchat Why the flu vaccination isn't treated the same
way as the other vaccinations and a condition of employment/practice? #nurchat 8:20 PM
gracenglorydan RT @nursiedeb: Put it this way, I cant feed my kids if I cant work! Or buy shoes! #nurchat 8:20 PM
AgencyNurse RT @gracenglorydan: @NurChat Definately! I wouldnt forgive myself if I
passed the flu virus onto one of our pediatric patients. #nurchat 8:19 PM
gracenglorydan @NurChat Definately! I wouldn't forgive myself if I passed the flu virus onto
one of our pediatric patients. #NurChat 8:19 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @nursiedeb: personally yes I do. Having seen what flu can do to healthy people,
its my job to protect myself and those around me #NurChat 8:18 PM
AgencyNurse RT @NHSE_Andrew: Any ideas 4 making sure community staff are targeted? Big issue for
trusts who have just taken over com staff. #nurchat 8:18 PM
nursiedeb For me personally yes. I do. Having seen what
flu can do to healthy young people, its my job to protect myself and those
around me #nurchat 8:18 PM
HelenGSTT We offer until about midnight because in
previous years no takers between midnight & 6 or at weekends?! #NurChat 8:17 PM
NHSE_Andrew Any ideas for making sure community based staff
are targeted? Big issue for trusts who have just taken over community staff. #nurchat 8:16 PM
gracenglorydan @NHSFluFighter so glad u liked! Really appreciating your encouragement this year! #NurChat 8:16 PM
Medisister @nursiedeb taking the jab to staff might be the answer but
you know the old adage about leading a horse to water? #nurchat 8:16 PM
nursiedeb So true. I feel that the government could do
mythbusting adverts on tv too. reach a much wider group of people #nurchat 8:16 PM
Jon_Restell RT @AgencyNurse: @Jon_Restell @nhsflufighter amazing that myths are still prevalent even in nurses #nurchat 8:16 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @AgencyNurse: @Jon_Restell @nhsflufighter amazing that myths are still prevalent even in nurses #nurchat 8:16 PM
NHSFluFighter @nursiedeb A lot of Trusts do offer a night time clinic
and a mobile vaccination clinic.... planning is key #NurChat 8:15 PM
AgencyNurse @Jon_Restell @nhsflufighter amazing that myths are still prevalent even in nurses #nurchat 8:15 PM
NHSFluFighter @gracenglorydan Yes we saw your photos! Great by the way and your enthusiasm for the
campaign is inspiring! #NurChat 8:14 PM
AgencyNurse RT @nursiedeb: I think we need to deploy more staff . We are
all concerned about sickness levels so surely makes financial sense? #nurchat 8:14 PM
nursiedeb Do you guys offer night staff a service out of
hours? Something I am trying #nurchat 8:14 PM
Jon_Restell RT @NHSFluFighter: Mythbusting is something that the #flufighter team have to tackle http://t.co/9zbKOOaD #NurChat 8:14 PM
NurChat RT @nursiedeb: I strongly feel we should offer a mobile
service and go to the wards/units. Take the jab to the staff #nurchat 8:13 PM
AgencyNurse @Jon_Restell i thought that the letter form dame beasly CNO
was a great idea #nurchat 8:13 PM
NHSFluFighter Mythbusting is something that
the #flufighter team have to tackle http://t.co/9zbKOOaD #NurChat 8:13 PM
nursiedeb I think we need to deploy more staff to do it.
We are all concerned about sickness levels so surely makes financial sense? #nurchat 8:13 PM
CatieH @gracenglorydan Did you photograph the event?
Useful to get pics to use throughout the organisation! #nurchat 8:13 PM
Jon_Restell RT @NHSE_Andrew: Docs are a big problem. We've produced a letter with the BMA to try
and persuade them. Royal Colleges also supporting. #nurchat 8:12 PM
CatieH @nursiedeb Yes this seems to be the best "top
tip" that comes from workshops...but it can't always be that easy? #nurchat 8:12 PM
NHSE_Andrew Docs are a big problem. We've produced a letter
with the BMA to try and persuade them. Royal Colleges also supporting. #nurchat 8:11 PM
GMTimes RT @NHSFluFighter: A lot of people feel that the flu vaccination is not safe or that the
size of the needle is something to be concerned about #NurChat 8:11 PM
gracenglorydan #nurchat hi all! Im the immunization coordinator at birmingham childrens hospital.
I vaccinated our Exec team today! V brave! 8:11 PM
NHSFluFighter These are just a few myths
that surround the flu vaccination... along with the flu vaccine giving you the
flu - which is false #NurChat 8:11 PM
CatieH I'm Catie and I also work on the #flu campaign,
gathering case studies of good practice and helping those who need it #NurChat 8:11 PM
nursiedeb I strongly feel we should offer a mobile
service and go to the wards/units. Take the jab to the staff #nurchat 8:10 PM
NHSFluFighter A lot of people feel that the
flu vaccination is not safe or that the size of the needle is something to be concerned
about #NurChat 8:10 PM
nursiedeb I have tried to organise mobile clinics and
going in at night. Most uptake is from support staff. Only 1 FY1 in 2 weeks! #nurchat 8:10 PM
HelenGSTT Hi, I'm Helen and I'm the Trust staff flu jab
lead at Guy's and St Thomas, Londond #NurChat 8:07 PM
NHSE_Andrew Our research backs up what Debbie says - myths
around the vaccine big issue. Also difficult for many to attend jab clinics #nurchat 8:07 PM
AgencyNurse i must admit that i did not have the flu jab
last year , i think it was just one of those thing i didnt get around to #nurchat 8:06 PM
nursiedeb I think the main problem is people saying the
jab makes them ill. I hear it time and time again in clinic #nurchat 8:05 PM
KP_LD RT @NHSE_Andrew: Hi I'm Andrew and amongst other things I am
looking after this year's national flu campaign for NHS Employers #nurchat #nurchat 8:05 PM
Jon_Restell RT @NHSE_Andrew: Hi I'm Andrew and amongst other things I am looking after this year's
national flu campaign for NHS Employers #nurchat
NHSE_Andrew Hi I'm Andrew and amongst other things I am
looking after this year's national flu campaign for NHS Employers #nurchat #nurchat 8:03 PM
NurChat Thanks to @nhsflufighter for tonight's discussion subject and for joining us tonight #Nurchat 7:59 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @NurChat: Also please remember to adhere to NMC guidelines when tweeting http://t.co/SUrv0JY3 #Nurchat 7:58 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @NurChat: We'll be starting in 5 mins, before we start pls remember that yr
tweets are all yr own opinions & not necessarily those of NurChat #Nurchat 7:57 PM
NurChat Also please remember to adhere to NMC
guidelines when tweeting http://t.co/SUrv0JY3 #Nurchat 7:56 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @NurChat: Joining us this evening for the #flufighters twitter chat, use http://t.co/VA9hOt98 to make life easier :) #nurchat 7:56 PM
NurChat We'll be starting in 5 mins, before we start
pls remember that yr tweets are all yr own opinions & not necessarily those
of NurChat #Nurchat 7:54 PM
NurChat Joining us this evening for the #flufighters twitter chat, use http://t.co/VA9hOt98 to make life easier :) #nurchat 7:51 PM
AgencyNurse time for a quick cup of tea before the #flu nurse
twitter chatter starts #nurchat 7:48 PM
NHSFluFighter RT @NHSE_Andrew: Don't bother with Holby City tonight. Join some real nurses online at
8pm to talk about the flu jab. #nurchat #flufighter 7:39 PM
AgencyNurse RT @NHSE_Andrew: Dont bother with Holby tonight. Join some real nurses online 8pm to
talk about the flu jab. #nurchat #flufighter #nurchat 7:36 PM
NHSE_Andrew Don't bother with Holby City tonight.
Join some real nurses online at 8pm to talk about the flu jab. #nurchat #flufighter 7:34 PM
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